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Mice on toast, surely not!

Sounds yummy!

I believe that aliens were here on the earth long before the Homosapien as we know it started to emerge. I'm an extreme conspiracist and there are alot of theories that I have. One of them is along the lines of alien/human spawning. If aliens came to earth in the early civilization stages of humans, say, 10,000 years ago, it might explain the drastic changes that Homosapiens have encountered in the last 10,000 years of our history. For millions of years Homosapiens were hunter/gatherers living tribally. Then, in the nile delta, 10,000 years ago, we "discovered" agriculture.

In the bible there are many references to "angels" that came from the sky and fornicated with the human women. Creating a race of "giants" that were feared among men. Goliath, of David & Goliath was one of these angel/human hybrids. So, this leads me to the conclusion that something happened to the human race in the early stages of civilization as we know it.

Barring acctual angels coming to earth and having sex with human women, that is. Which in and of itself, to me, is not that fantastic a tale.

I don't think humans were influenced by aliens. I think it's kind of insulting to think that human beings weren't intelligent enough to develop agriculture by themselves. It makes sense to think of it from an evolutionary perspective: human beings who lived as hunter-gatherers would have died of starvation when there was a lack of prey due to bad weather or some other catastrophe. So the people who were smart and creative enough to figure out how to plant things and domesticate animals, so they didn't have to depend on looking for prey, survived, as did their children, who presumably inherited some of their intelligence, so the human race became even more creative and inventive.

Also, the processes of agriculture and domestication almost certainly did not happen overnight. There was probably a lot of trial and error and learning involved.

People invent and discover things all the time. That's our evolutionary advantage; where other animals have big teeth or claws or can run very fast, we use our inventiveness to adapt to new situations.

I think stories about giants might have been influenced from a time when different species that were related to humans were living at the same time. There's also a theory (Nietzsche? Freud?) that myths about giants come from childhood memories when we saw our parents as all-powerful giants.

I think there is a tendency to think we are either aliens ourselves, or influenced by aliens in some way in the past because we are sapient and most other animals are not, or don’t seem to be at least. No one knows why we are the way we are; why we have complex dreams; why we fall in love instead of simply mating; I think we don’t know enough to say anything for definite about our past, perhaps we are aliens from another planet? Perhaps aliens influenced us? But what does aliens really mean? On our own planet we call people from other countries who come into our country, aliens; so to me aliens are just more people from other planets, it doesn’t matter to me where we came from or how we became the way we are – people discover new things all the time, either by themselves or by other people (or aliens) giving them ideas. If there are aliens on other planets I imagine that they will be very similar to ourselves; I also think there is a possibility that the universe is very new, which is why we know so little, and that Earth could be the first civilisation and that we will spread out into space much the same as we did on Earth – more likely there are lots of little pockets of life like ours, slowly developing like ours, and eventually they will travel across space and meet up with everyone else – some developing more quickly than others, again like on Earth.

Edit: on the agriculture thing; learning to farm the land depends a lot on geography and environment, earlier humans lived in areas where there were lots of roaming beasts to kill but where the land wasn't good for growing stuff, like Africa. The humans were, and still are, nomadic in nature and some found themselves in more temperate areas where things grew easily, it is natural to settle in such places and learn how to harvest the local vegetation and develop upon that. In some parts of the world people still just eat mostly animals, Mongolia for instance, because their environment does not support vegetation.

I certainly didn't mean to insult the human race Marcia. I understand all that about evolution and agriculture and stuff. I just have an overactive imagination and coupled with my love of the X Files I tend to have a bizzare and fantastic list of theories. I don't think that alot of them are true, but I do like to think about it. I have to admit, it's fun for me to hypothesize about the evolution of the human race and how we came to be what we are. I think it's a throw back from the whole indoctrination of God-made-the-world-in-six-days-and-on-the-seventh-day-he-rested stuff that was ingrained into me as a child. I think that my need to have another explenation made my brain go in all kinds of different directions.

Anyway, I like what you had to say Maljonic about the universe being new and us expanding and the other people on other planets expanding and maybe one day we'll bump into each other. Thats comforting for me. The thought gives me the warm fuzzies.

I feel sort of the same way, and even though I don't think human evolution was influenced by aliens, I do think it is likely that there are other intelligent beings in the universe. Although when asked what we should do if an alien race tried to contact us, someone once said, "Don't answer."

mybe there actually was a race that people had horns but probably not

I do enjoy that particular direction of logic. Zachariah Sitkin a Kabbalist scholar wrote a series of books lending numerous potential validations to such a theory. He places the beginning of alien visitation at about 120,000 years agoe however. I am a new spritualistic convert with one foot in both worlds so to speak, and although would enjoy concrete proof enjoy the belief ina variety of different possibilities. I am an astrological dabbler and think that many things about mankind are yet to be explained to a sufficient degree but that time swiftly approaches! Namaste!