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11-15-2004, 09:09 PM
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Hometown Blues
Hey Everyone
I know its been a while since I've been here but life gets crazy like that...you know what I mean
Here's another dream that I'm curious about & would like opinions on but first some background
I've been in an off/on relationship for a very long time. The reason why is mainly because I grew up abused, have issues with trust intimacy, etc etc so its been rough
Also, I noticed that when something is bothering me inside, my dreams tend to be a bit violent, dark & scary....so this is what I dreamt this morning
I was in Philadelphia (EJs hometown...EJ is my boyfriend) and there were some sort of riots/floods or whatever going on so there was nothing but chaos going on...oddly enough..the whole city seemed full of men only..the only woman around was me
The men were loud, aggressive and scary...I just had this feeling that at any moment..I would somehow be raped &/or killed..I kept trying to find my way outside of the city but it was almost as though the city itself kept turning like the earth
I'd notice a familiar landmark that would have my heart jump for joy..I'd walk a few blocks & it would shift..I'd be in some other part of the city & the landmark would be gone
There was water everywhere, the men were shouting from stores, street corners, etc
I was walking around trying to find a way out..trying to be inconspicuous
Sometimes it worked, other times it didnt..a man or 2 would follow me for a while &/or say something to me before he decided to leave me alone
When I finally did find ladies it was more potential violence. Somehow I ran into my cousin..where a fight between her & someone else was about to break out...I didnt want to be around for that but she was the only person I knew
Eventually she sent me away..gave me some sort of comb/brush thing & told me to go bring it to my neighbor...so off I went back out into the craziness
But it was interesting how it wasnt craziness..when I went out it became MY hometown (you know how dreams are) I went to the home of the lady who lived next door who use to babysit me
My dreams of going home are always bittersweet..filled with the memories of adventures I'll never have again..going to the house I grew up in...being with people I had fun with..its all very safe & homey feeling
Does this make sense? I'm wondering if this was more about the people...not the hometowns?
I'm wondering if I see EJ as someone scary who could potentially shift at any moment to hurt me...but instead of dreaming that about him..I made it about his hometown?
The truth about EJ is that he's been a very good friend to me all the time I've known him..always willing to listen...to help..to be there for me..however, my upbringing was such that I always found it hard to trust anyone & unfortunately this includes him too
We've talked about it some....he sees nothing really wrong with me but I beg to differ
So whats the deal with this dream? Thoughts?
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11-16-2004, 01:50 PM
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The Big Dreamer
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Was there actual water in the floods? Where the streets flooded? Water usually represents emotions; when we cry water comes out of our eyes, and flooding suggests a feeling of overwhelming emotions, plus you appear to be lost in your dream/emotions too... perhaps you are not used to having these emotions/feelings, or you are worried that they will carry you away, like flood waters or riots, and you'll be out of control? One thing to bear in mind is that floods are always temporary, they always go away; meaning your worries may rise for a while but they will subside too, even though you were lost in the streets you still made it back home, the home represents yourself by the way - you might not know how you made it back home, back to yourself, but your unconscious is telling you that you will somehow, no matter what happens, and everything will be normal - things only seem out of control sometimes but have a way of righting themselves, returning to equilibrium. Now, does any of that make any sense? 
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11-16-2004, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Maljonic
Was there actual water in the floods? Where the streets flooded? Water usually represents emotions; when we cry water comes out of our eyes, and flooding suggests a feeling of overwhelming emotions, plus you appear to be lost in your dream/emotions too... perhaps you are not used to having these emotions/feelings, or you are worried that they will carry you away, like flood waters or riots, and you'll be out of control? One thing to bear in mind is that floods are always temporary, they always go away; meaning your worries may rise for a while but they will subside too, even though you were lost in the streets you still made it back home, the home represents yourself by the way - you might not know how you made it back home, back to yourself, but your unconscious is telling you that you will somehow, no matter what happens, and everything will be normal - things only seem out of control sometimes but have a way of righting themselves, returning to equilibrium. Now, does any of that make any sense? 
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Wow good questions! Yes the streets were flooded in the sense that the water was ankle high almost everywhere! I noticed it (interestingly enough) only when I was around the men  I didnt notice any water when I was around my cousin. Also interesting was that when I was with the men in the streets walking around..it was broad daylight with ankle high water...the streets were really bad..it was almost like poverty-striken
When I ran into my cousin..it was like in some alley and it was dark but no water..then when I went home it was also dark with no water...not sure what the light & dark thing is about though
And yes that is right..my feelings for EJ are not something I'm use to.
Ok I've known him for a very long time now but I always worry that the minute that I let my feelings completely go..it'll be like some tidal wave that I cant escape from  it scares me very much
It does make sense & I knew there was something there when I dreamt of his hometown & being lost there
I guess I needed to make sure 
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12-07-2004, 02:59 AM
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Hi again, Babydreamer.
I think the car accident situation has to do with feeling out of control. Your frustration with EJ's behavior also seems to indicate to me something about feeling unable to control your feelings toward/relationship with him.
Hope that helped a bit 
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12-07-2004, 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcia
Hi again, Babydreamer.
I think the car accident situation has to do with feeling out of control. Your frustration with EJ's behavior also seems to indicate to me something about feeling unable to control your feelings toward/relationship with him.
Hope that helped a bit 
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Hey Marcia
Yes that does help
But the thing is, sometimes I get so stuck in my fear that I move forward but I never get anywhere....sorta like in my first dream that I wrote about
I see something familiar...I feel like I'm moving towards an answer but something shifts & I go back to the beginning
Generally speaking EJ is a good guy who has repeatedly tried to help me with my past & how that affects me but I think that I dont like being out of control
And most of the dreams that scare me are about me not being in control
Not being able to control how the other person feels about me...not being able to know if I'll be rejected or not...which in essence seems like such shit
I've known EJ since I was 17....I'm 30 now....he's HAD plenty of chances to escape & he's told me more than a few times that hes not leaving that he will be in my life in some fashion
Yet I just can't shake this fear & this is how it plays out...its always dark & scary in my dreams....somethng is always threatening me & EJ always seems just out of reach, close enough to touch yet for whatever reason...I cant reach him
In real life he's not like that...hes very straight forward...I think my fear just puts him in another light in my head and I dont know how to undo that
He encourages me to talk to him all the time but I always feel like if I put it all out there...then I'll be the puppet....he'll be the puppetmaster and all hell will break loose
You'd think I'd know better
EJ does know that I care about him, but he has made comments that lead me to believe that he doesnt know how deep it is for me and he doesnt know how much I suffer over this
I wish it werent so
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12-08-2004, 03:53 PM
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Can I ask do you have similar feelings/anxieties about EJ in your waking life or are they just confined to your dreams? Also the subconscious mind is very childlike and will often assume that bad experiences will be repeated until proved otherwise - so you can either be a victim of your subconscious fears or face up to them and see what happens, dreams can help sometimes but they can also mess us around a bit too; they work a bit like a computer program, expecting the same results all the time until new data (experience) is added, so sometimes you have to take charge and proactively add the data yourself by going ahead and doing some of the things your dreams are telling you to worry about, unless of course you really know you shouldn't be doing stuff in waking life (like beating people up or something) and your dreams are telling you to stop – but that’s something different entirely. 
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12-08-2004, 05:24 PM
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12-08-2004, 06:02 PM
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Water nearly always represents your soul, your emotions in dreams; if the water in your dreams is the way it is in your dreams. i.e. flooding, causing chaos etc then it's pretty fair to assume that your emotions are this way too - bearing in mind how important water is to everyone; we are born from water in the womb, we need water to live, we are made from mostly water, our subconscious uses images to get us to see its messages, it chooses the images according to how important it believes we think they are: so water imagery is very important, from our subconscious’ point of view, and our conscious’ one too. I don't want to say much more than that here, and I'm dead set against people who give too much personal advice to people they don't really know on message boards, advice that could be wrong and may upset their lives - all I can say is, if your subconscious thinks there is a problem, a reason to be anxious, and you yourself in waking life believe you might be suppressing anxieties then it's probably very real. I would seriously consider speaking to someone face-to-face, if you haven't already, like a counsellor who doesn't know you or EJ who can listen to everything you have to say. Or maybe I’m reading too much into it and it’s just the dreams you’re bothered about? Whatever the case, if the same/similar dreams keep coming back again and again, they’ll keep on doing so until something is resolved. 
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12-08-2004, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Maljonic
Water nearly always represents your soul, your emotions in dreams; if the water in your dreams is the way it is in your dreams. i.e. flooding, causing chaos etc then it's pretty fair to assume that your emotions are this way too - bearing in mind how important water is to everyone; we are born from water in the womb, we need water to live, we are made from mostly water, our subconscious uses images to get us to see its messages, it chooses the images according to how important it believes we think they are: so water imagery is very important, from our subconscious’ point of view, and our conscious’ one too. I don't want to say much more than that here, and I'm dead set against people who give too much personal advice to people they don't really know on message boards, advice that could be wrong and may upset their lives - all I can say is, if your subconscious thinks there is a problem, a reason to be anxious, and you yourself in waking life believe you might be suppressing anxieties then it's probably very real. I would seriously consider speaking to someone face-to-face, if you haven't already, like a counsellor who doesn't know you or EJ who can listen to everything you have to say. Or maybe I’m reading too much into it and it’s just the dreams you’re bothered about? Whatever the case, if the same/similar dreams keep coming back again and again, they’ll keep on doing so until something is resolved. 
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Its ok Malj
You're not saying anything that I havent considered already
My anxieties go deeper than just dreams & I have gone back & forth with a therapist over this
But at the end of the day, the therapist cant go home with you, they cant sit there while you make phonecalls & tell you to move past your fears
Its just you & the demons
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose but its something that no one can really help you with, they can help you understand the source & maybe how to slowly move past it but again, its still one-on-one once you get home
I was just curious about the water thing because it does scare me now
Its not a paralyzing fear but whenever I'm watching a show & it has some type of dark ocean scene, I tend to get a little more excited than I should, especially for someone sitting at home who has no plans on being near the ocean any time soon 
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